http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/2367 - 2.1.0 GUI
Andrew Roeder
correnthean at hotmail.com
Thu Aug 2 00:26:36 EDT 2007
>How can we improve on that? I wrote a blog article weeks ago outlining
>the new changes. There were tons of debates on the mailing list, the
>results of which seemed to have reached the best compromise. And now,
>we're listening to feedback. If there's anything we can do better, let
>me know.
I will define, that the average user does not participate in the mailing
list, read your blog, or even know about either of them. The most users who
do are ones with the suggestions or complaints, generally the latter.
A problem with much UI design specific problems is that older users are not
voicing their opinions, as they are content with what is there, while the
users who feel they need something changed are all but screaming their heads
off. The only way then to get a fair decision is to consider the old "Well
why did we do this in the first place." which I think the Pidgin team does,
but I think these pretty well get trampled by the drive for
"new/innovative." If I knew of a way to get these "silent voices" heard
more clearly I'd suggest it.
>As for the protocol icons, nobody has yet to make an argument
>convincing enough for me to believe that the protocol is something you
>need at-a-glance. However, I'm giving strong consideration to ticket
>#2146
Ticket #2146 I really dislike, it is adding more clutter to an already
cramped buddy list, while there is no direct relation between the protocol
of a user and their online status, it was a compact way of displaying the
information without expanding the buddy list columns or cluttering it up.
I really don't wish to rehash the topic of these, but I'll shorten my
reasons to that I see nothing wrong with displaying what you may consider
"non-essential" information, available in the open. Regardless of if you
think it is useful or not, you do need to know what protocol someone is on
at some point in time. Really at the moment, if you plan on direct IMing
someone by rightclicking on your buddy list, you're going to need to know
that they are on AIM/ICQ, and if you want to make an MSN chat with a user by
using right click, you will also need to know this information. Hovering
the mouse over every user to find which ones are currently using this
protocol.
>So you'd suggest:
>
>Font â | Smiley | Link | Image
Seems right to me, very small space usage(especially if only icons are
used.) and is the "one click" solution.
>I also agree about the Reset Formatting button; I think its very
>existence is a work-around to a bug, which is mostly fixed in 2.1.1,
>and we should definitely remove it from such prominence, and perhaps
>remove it entirely.
Main bug with this was the copy/paste of text not resetting afterwards
correct? Really I think it will always be a necessary item as long as you
are able to change anything about your text, but definately it does not
deserve the largest button on the toolbar:P
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