Fwd: [Pidgin] #552: Description disappeared from field bottom of the contacts list

Gary Kramlich grim at reaperworld.com
Wed May 2 16:32:52 EDT 2007

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Luke Schierer wrote:
> On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 01:13:10PM -0700, Sean Egan wrote:
>> On 5/2/07, Luke Schierer <lschiere at pidgin.im> wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 11:49:36AM -0700, Sean Egan wrote:
>>>> deryni doesn't remember but recalls it being an "overwhelmingly
>>>> popular move." I think it was a dumb move. Discuss.
>>> One of the frequent complaints with the early betas was that you could
>>> not return from away.  In tracing this, we discovered that people
>>> actually could and were returning from away, they were confused by the
>>> fact that the status message was preserved.  changing this behavior
>>> fixed this "bug" for significant numbers of users.
>> Probably more AIM users unable to disassociate "away message" from
>> "away." /me stops before this turns into another "paper vs. clock"
>> debate. :)
>> The problem with the change is that it makes the behavior I
>> prefer---status messages distinct from status---inordinately
>> difficult. You have top copy (explicitly, just highlighting won't do
>> the trick), the status message, change the status, then paste the
>> message back.
>> The old behavior made it impossibly easy for me, and really trivial
>> for others (hit delete). Is the concept of an available message really
>> so confusing to people that this change is warrented?
>> -s.
> Right now you've done an amazing job working to explain our ideas of
> the removal of the protocol icons.  Despite that, we have bug #414,
> numerous users in #pidgin, several other tickets closed as duplicate,
> some emails, and some IMs directly to us.
> I have stated that this behavior caused bug reports in the same order of
> magnitude.  
> I dislike dealing with this confusion, but I'm willing to do it, if you
> think it is warrented.
> Your call.
> luke

Here's a stupid thought.  If the only people that want this feature,
myself included, are all developers, why not just make a #define (or
- -Dsimple_status, name chosen at random) for it?

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