Donated hosting and dedicated box from networkredux
Luke Schierer
lschiere at pidgin.im
Sat Jul 5 11:13:18 EDT 2008
On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 10:27:12AM -0400, Ethan Blanton wrote:
> Kevin Stange spake unto us the following wisdom:
> > Evan Schoenberg wrote:
> > >Thomas Brenneke of NetworkRedux, which provides Adium's hosting - both
> > >a dedicated box they provided and co-lo for a second machine we
> > >provided - has offerred to provide both hardware (a dedicated machine)
> > >and hosting for free to Pidgin.
> >
> > Not to start a "bidding war" here, but I should note that I talked it
> > over with my boss at Steadfast Networks and we are also prepared to
> > provide a dedicated server for free, depending on bandwidth
> > arrangements, with the single requirement of a button indicating our
> > hosting services are used at the bottom of the site (similar to what we
> > already do for DV LABS).
>
> I don't have a problem with us adding a second machine, or replacing
> homing, but just to be clear ...
>
> As I pointed out yesterday (or the day before?) on devel at cpi, in each
> of the previous meltdowns to this ICQ meltdown, it has turned out that
> there was a serious configuration and/or content problem which was
> chewing up the machine. Had we had a bigger or better machine, it
> would have simply chewed harder and still melted down. Now, I don't
> know about this ICQ situation, maybe it was a simple overload. If it
> was, the answer is *still* probably to streamline the services, and
> throwing more power at it will be (of course -- it always is) stopgap.
>
> We can get a new machine, that's fine; however, I think we need to
> look hard at the costs of maintaining two (or switching over, if
> that's what we want to do) in light of the fact that it almost
> certainly won't *fix* any problems. It may or may not push them back.
>
> Note that I think one real benefit would be to move the monotone
> repository (Gary has also offered this in the past); we have a lot of
> problems with syncing from the distribution database to the databases
> for the various local services. This is also a problem which is only
> worked around by distributing, but the workaround is effective and
> quantifiable -- those databases are huge, and (I think) we spend a lot
> of time with I/O contention between the various databases. As to
> where it goes, I am ambivalent.
>
> Ethan
This time I think the monotone & viewmtn loads were the biggest part of
of bringing nearly bringing us down.
I do think it noteworthy though that this time, unlike past times, we
were not entirely floored. We've improved a lot since the previous
meltdown, we never lost shell access (though there was some delays) and
I don't think the machine had to be rebooted. It certainly didn't
require work at the console like last time.
Luke
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