NetworkManager dependency

Gary Kramlich grim at reaperworld.com
Mon Dec 28 01:56:00 EST 2015


I looked like a gio extension, so I hope there.  Either way I'm hammering
out a pr, and we can see from there?  This is pretty straight forward.

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Eion Robb <eion at robbmob.com> wrote:

> I'm not seeing win32 support in there?
>
> On 28 December 2015 at 18:29, Gary Kramlich <grim at reaperworld.com> wrote:
>
>> https://developer.gnome.org/gio/stable/GNetworkMonitor.html since GLib
>> 2.32 :-D
>>
>> So who wants to tackle this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Gary Kramlich
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Gary Kramlich <grim at reaperworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, if all we're doing is checking network status and handling a
>>> signal on (dis)?connect we should check if we can just do it via GIO.  That
>>> way it should just work, removes a dependency, and everyone is hopefully
>>> happy :-D  I'll take a look when I have some time later.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary Kramlich
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Michael McConville <mmcco at mykolab.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jorge VillaseƱor wrote:
>>>> > Michael McConville wrote:
>>>> > > Ethan Blanton wrote:
>>>> > > > Gary Kramlich spake unto us the following wisdom:
>>>> > > > > Wait, are we actually talking about disabling by default
>>>> instead of
>>>> > > > > updating to the newer version that'll make things better?
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I think they're two separate issues, actually.  But a newer
>>>> version of
>>>> > > > NM won't really *fix* its crapitudity, it's rather endemic.  It
>>>> will
>>>> > > > just take care of some specific complaints we have (the nature of
>>>> > > > which I don't recall at the moment).
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I am ambivalent on enable or disable by default; I simply said
>>>> that it
>>>> > > > may be reasonable to disable by default.  Mike simply uses systems
>>>> > > > that don't work properly with a wide range of software (including
>>>> NM),
>>>> > > > so he doesn't like it. ;-)
>>>> > >
>>>> > > True, to an extent.  :-)  NM does seem like an eminently optional
>>>> add-on
>>>> > > feature, though. As far as I can tell, we only use it to get a hint
>>>> of
>>>> > > whether the network is up.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I'm also biased against NM in general, having fought its VPN-related
>>>> > > bugs in the past.
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > I agree with explicit configuration so users know what they are
>>>> building.
>>>> >
>>>> > I would suggest we take our biases out and let the user or distributor
>>>> > decide what they want in their builds.
>>>> >
>>>> > I don't recall which functionallity does NM provide to us, if it worth
>>>> > it or not, but I think that is a different discussion.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't mean for that bias comment to be taken particularly seriously.
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> I think we all agree that the configuration should be explicit. It seems
>>>> like the discussion is just whether or not NM should be on by default.
>>>> What are your thoughts on that? I think it should probably be off by
>>>> default because it's only used for a minor supporting feature and it's
>>>> usually only available on one platform.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary Kramlich <grim at reaperworld.com>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Gary Kramlich <grim at reaperworld.com>
>>
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