Old paradigms...

David Woodhouse dwmw2 at infradead.org
Mon Aug 7 12:42:31 EDT 2017

On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 10:38 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-07-30 at 23:04 -0500, Gary Kramlich wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:48 AM, David Woodhouse  wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > While we're at it, please can we add a concept of transient
> > > buddies/contacts.
> > > 
> > > IF I get an incoming IM from someone I've never heard of, then for the
> > > duration of that IM chat window, I *could* show that person's full name
> > > and presence.
> > > 
> > > Right now it only works for individuals who *happen* to already be
> > > known buddies. I have all the information in my prpl but no way to
> > > convey it to libpurple/Pidgin.
> > So you're thinking of something like always have a buddy or whatever
> > we're calling it for everyone (and get rid of the just name thing for
> > them) and have an option to not show/store them in the contact list?
> Do you mean 'get rid of the just name thing' for serv_got_im() and
> purple_conv_chat_add_user(), and to pass a PurpleBuddy (or whatever
> that's called) instead? 
> I suppose we could, although that wasn't what I was thinking. It's fine
> to just pass the name up from the prpl as we do now, and let
> Pidgin/libpurple handle what happens next.
> It so happens that Pidgin chooses to display the contact's presence at
> the top of the IM window, and wants that information. And that it shows
> the contact's full name by preference in the list of chat members, so
> it wants that too.
> Pidgin *already* creates a transient PurpleBuddy for that purpose, if
> no known buddy already exists. My prpl already *receives* status
> information for that buddy; it's just that there's no way for me to
> make the two meet in the middle. My prpl doesn't even get a *signal*
> let alone a direct invocation when code elsewhere creates a buddy for
> the account, which seems odd.

Annoyingly, we already *have* a get_cb_real_name() function but Pidgin
doesn't actually call it, so members in a chat window are shown by
their ID (in my case email address). Unless, as I said, they were
already known Buddies. That one is probably fairly simple to fix, but
still doesn't get me presence for incoming IM from "random" people.
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