Hello Ethan,<br>argument on point 1 was that because distribution releases do not match application releases, they clearly fail to meet user's expectations, I am sure you will agree that building from source is not a reasonable process for a regular desktop user.
<br>I do understand your concerns. l will first validate with the official package maintainers that the getdeb package will not be a problem on future distribution upgrades, then I will email this list again, hopefully someone will evaluate if it should be provided to Ubuntu users as an Official download.
<br>I am providing regular updates, always using upstream sources and when possible based on the official distribution package building rules.<br><br>Thanks<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">2007/5/14, Ethan Blanton <
<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">email@example.com</a>>:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Joćo Pinto spake unto us the following wisdom:
<br>> 2 - If you choose to ignore the 11K users which have downloaded until now,<br>> then it is still working.<br><br>I don't understand your argument -- have downloaded what, your<br>package? I'm glad that it's popular, if that's what you're saying.
<br><br>> If you tell me that I should first check with the distro maintainers or you<br>> (gaim developers) to validate or improve the package quality I would agree<br>> with you, it is a bit different from the "we don't care about your package"
<br>> that I felt on your answer.<br><br>You are welcome to distribute the package yourself, but our position,<br>as stated before, is that we do not accept third-party binary<br>packages. We can check (to some extent) each individual package, but
<br>this is not a scalable solution. If you were to become involved with<br>the Pidgin project and interact with us on a daily basis, we would of<br>course revisit this position. I hope you can understand why we cannot<br>
accept binary packages from just anyone on the Internet who professes<br>to offer them. You may be a swell guy (and I assume you are), and you<br>may not be doing anything to adulterate the packages, but we have no<br>way of knowing that.
<br><br>(Let me make it clear that the package adulteration which has gone on<br>in the past has, to my knowledge, never been malicious.)<br><br>We are not trying to be unreasonable here, but when you have tens of<br>thousands of downloads *per day*, as we do, you have to have some idea
<br>of precisely what is going out in those downloads. We achieve this by<br>shipping only un-patched binaries from release versions, and providing<br>these packages only for those systems for which a developer or regular
<br>contributor can produce binaries.<br><br>Ethan<br><br>--<br>The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws [that have no remedy<br>for evils]. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor<br>determined to commit crimes.
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