PRotocols unification ? RE: New Yahoo messenger with Pidgin client

[Eion Robb]

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On 14 July 2016 at 04:43, David Balažic <david.balazic at comtrade.com> wrote:

> In light of this, does anyone know any group, organization, effort or
> anything toward unification of IM protocols?
> Having 5 (or even 10) different apps just to communicate with people is
> ridiculous.
> (multi-protocol clients like pidgin help, but the problem still remains)
>
> A quick google found just this old article from 2008:
>
> "Standardizing instant messaging protocols"
>  Instant messaging's growth hasn't been as robust as many expected
>
> http://www.networkworld.com/article/2273493/email-services/standardizing-instant-messaging-protocols.html
>
> Regards,
> David Balažic
> Software Engineer
> www.comtrade.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Support [mailto:support-bounces at pidgin.im] On Behalf Of
> > pidgin at alexoren.com
> > Sent: 13. July 2016 3:04
> > To: eion at robbmob.com
> > Cc: Pidgin Support List
> > Subject: Re: New Yahoo messenger with Pidgin client [dkim]
> >
> > Hi Eion,
> >
> > Allow me to present an opposing view.
> >
> > The new Yahoo protocol is atrocious, there is no disputing that.
> > However, many people will continue to use it due to its integration with
> > Yahoo mail.
> >
> > Everybody who uses Yahoo's web-mail gets the "new" messenger integrated
> > with it, just like Facebook embeds its chat in its website.  I
> personally know
> > several people that do not want to run a separate IM client when they
> have
> > instant messaging capabilities, however crappy, inside their email.
> >
> > I believe that Pidgin should support the protocols that people use to
> > communicate, regardless of how "good" they are, and the fact is that
> Yahoo
> > Messenger will continue to hold a large user base even after the
> change.  Do
> > not assume that the most vocal users represent the majority.
> >
> > Check out the reviews on
> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yahoo.mobile.client.an
> > droid.im&hl=en (sort by newest)
> > There are quite a few of 4 and 5-star reviews for the new version amid
> the
> > outrage.
> >
> > I chose Pidgin in order to be able to tell the people I wish to
> communicate
> > with that I can do so no matter what client or platform they use, without
> > requiring them to make any changes.
> >
> > Consider the following scenario:
> > Alice chats with Bob on YIM.
> > After the switch, Alice tries to convince Bob to move to another
> protocol.
> > However, Bob also chats with Catherine, Dave and Eve; Catherine also
> chats
> > with Frank, Gwen and Hannah, Dave also chats with...
> > Convincing all of them to move, or to use several clients, may not be
> feasible
> >
> > I vote for adding support, preferably before the August 5th deadline, if
> > possible.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Alex.
> >
> > On 12-07-2016 16:02, Eion Robb wrote:
> > > Hi Arulraj,
> > >
> > > I've been looking over the new Yahoo but everyone seems to think it's
> > > terrible, posting in their forums and user feedback pages about how
> > > awful the new messenger is.
> > >
> > > The new messenger is a completely new client and protocol with the
> > > word "yahoo" slapped on it and it seems to have no connection to the
> > > old messenger (new buddy list, no message interop, no message
> > > formatting, other loss of functionality)
> > >
> > > So my question is: is it worth it?
> > >
> > > Should we be writing support for a protocol that noone wants when
> > > users are leaving en masse?
> > >
> > > Interested in your thoughts on the matter as most people I've heard
> > > from about it are looking at alternative networks, rather than
> > > sticking with Yahoo.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Eion
> >
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