AIM login

Donald Le donald.le at teamaol.com
Mon Mar 13 08:38:34 EDT 2017


Hi again,

I download Pidgin 2.12.0 and test login.

The "new" distID and devID were not used, and I received the upgrade
message.
The client is still on the old distID and NO devID.
Could you double-check?

LSI: PLOT  4224.8888   1502    10.172.189.32   Mon Mar 13 08:02:11
2017  bos_srv-l014b        Mon Mar 13 08:20:19 2017 bos_srv-l014b
LSI: PLOT  4224.8888   1502    10.172.189.32   Mon Mar 13 07:43:23
2017  bos_srv-l014b        Mon Mar 13 07:49:22 2017 bos_srv-l014b


Thanks,


*Donald Le*
*Product Management and Support AIM Platform*
*O*: 703-265-5645 | *M*: 703-678-1073
*AIM*: donald.le at teamaol.com
*AOL Inc**. 22070 Broderick Drive Dulles, VA 20166*

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Donald Le <donald.le at teamaol.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> *The third said in the original email "No usage since August 2014 so no
> need new DistID and DevID", which is clearly wrong. There's also that
> "another libpurple" with distid 1502 which doesn't match any client we own,
> and we don't know how you found that one.*
> I can't explain but you did the right thing to use 1718 for Finch.
>
>
> *Did the 1718 distid get invalidated? Can you re-enable it so that we
> don't have to make another release?*
> Please try again now and let me know, I correct a typo in the devID just
> now.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> *Donald Le*
> *Product Management and Support AIM Platform*
> *O*: 703-265-5645 <(703)%20265-5645> | *M*: 703-678-1073
> <(703)%20678-1073>
> *AIM*: donald.le at teamaol.com
> *AOL Inc**. 22070 Broderick Drive Dulles, VA 20166*
>
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 1:25 PM, dequis <dx at dxzone.com.ar> wrote:
>
>> Hey Donald!
>>
>> As you may have heard we already released pidgin 2.12.0 (together with
>> libpurple and finch 2.12.0), updating the distid/devids.
>>
>> Here's what we used:
>>
>> Pidgin:
>> Distid: 1715
>> Devid: do1UCeb5gNqxB1S1
>>
>> Libpurple:
>> Distid: 1717
>> Devid: ma19CwYN9i9Mw5nY
>>
>> Finch:
>> Distid: 1718
>> Devid: ma18nmEklXMR7Cj_
>>
>> The first two are normal.
>>
>> The third said in the original email "No usage since August 2014 so no
>> need new DistID and DevID", which is clearly wrong. There's also that
>> "another libpurple" with distid 1502 which doesn't match any client we own,
>> and we don't know how you found that one.
>>
>> So for the sake of avoiding a roundtrip in our communication and getting
>> the release packaged ASAP, we went ahead and used the remaining 1718 distid
>> for finch.
>>
>> This looks like it was a mistake, since we're now getting "Method not
>> allowed - clientLogin Not Allowed for this devId" errors in finch.
>>
>> Did the 1718 distid get invalidated? Can you re-enable it so that we
>> don't have to make another release?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On 27 January 2017 at 01:54, Donald Le <donald.le at teamaol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> My comments are inline.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> *Donald Le*
>>> *Tech Director | Product Management and Support AIM Platform*
>>> *O*: 703-265-5645 <(703)%20265-5645> | *M*: 703-678-1073
>>> <(703)%20678-1073>
>>> *AIM*: donald.le at teamaol.com
>>> *AOL Inc*. 22070 Broderick Drive Dulles, VA 20166
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Donald Le <donald.le at teamaol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> Quick update: we had to delay AIM client upgrade due to other
>>>> integration, the date is tbd.
>>>> I will answer your questions in the coming weeks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Donald Le*
>>>> *Tech Director | Product Management and Support AIM Platform*
>>>> *O*: 703-265-5645 <%28703%29%20265-5645> | *M*: 703-678-1073
>>>> <%28703%29%20678-1073>
>>>> *AIM*: donald.le at teamaol.com
>>>> *AOL Inc*. 22070 Broderick Drive Dulles, VA 20166
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 2:58 AM, dequis <dx at dxzone.com.ar> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, I have a couple of questions, since there may have been a
>>>>> misunderstanding here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pidgin currently supports three auth methods for AIM:
>>>>>
>>>>> - MD5 using slogin.oscar.aol.com. Uses the DistID, does not use the
>>>>> DevID
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> <Donald> All DistID used for login.oscar.aol.com and
>>> slogin.oscar.aol.com will be blocked. The date is tbd and AIM client
>>> upgrade will start Feb 24th 2017.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - clientLogin aka OpenAuth using
>>>>> api.screenname.aol.com/auth/clientLogin. Uses DistID and DevID. Has
>>>>> been the default setting for pidgin releases since 2009
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> <Donald> This login path will stay but you need to update the DistID and
>>> DevID. We will give you a new set.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - Kerberos using kdc.uas.aol.com. Uses DistID and DevID. Introduced in
>>>>> pidgin 2.11.0, released four months ago.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> <Donald> Same as above with OpenAuth.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If I'm understanding this right, the first method is being
>>>>> discontinued and the other two will continue working. It's possible a
>>>>> lot of users are using that - the account setting is a bit too
>>>>> visible, so users might just switch to it for the sake of changing
>>>>> settings. But as far as I can see, pidgin with the default
>>>>> configuration won't stop working.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> <Donald> If Pidgin uses DistID = 1502 or 0, the login will be blocked.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> What I don't understand is why we're changing the DistID and DevID.
>>>>> I'm 90% sure that clientlogin sends both in the same way as the
>>>>> official client. Did the previous ones get invalidated?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> <Donald> Yes.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> We're currently using these:
>>>>>
>>>>> Pidgin
>>>>> DistID: 1550
>>>>> DevID: ma1cSASNCKFtrdv9
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> <Donald> I reached out to Pidgin, see below.
>>>
>>> From: Donald Le <donald.le at teamaol.com>
>>> Date: Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 6:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: AIM login
>>> To: Richard Vickery <rmv1 at sfu.ca>, pidgin at alexoren.com, Pidgin Support
>>> List <support at pidgin.im>
>>>
>>> new DevID = do1UCeb5gNqxB1S1
>>> new distID = 1715
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Finch:
>>>>> DistID: 1552
>>>>> DevID: ma19sqWV9ymU6UYc
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> <Donald> No usage since August 2014 so no need new DistID and DevID.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Libpurple:
>>>>> DistID: 1553
>>>>> DevID: ma15d7JTxbmVG-RP
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> <Donald> new DistID = 1717, new DevID = ma19CwYN9i9Mw5nY
>>>
>>> I found another Libpurple
>>> DistID: 1502 with no DevID >> new DistID = 1718, new DevID =
>>> ma18nmEklXMR7Cj_
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The source code says they are owned by the AIM account "markdoliner".
>>>>>
>>>>> Are these still valid? If they are, I think you can go ahead and pull
>>>>> the plug of the old auth method.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 October 2016 at 01:11, Gary Kramlich <grim at reaperworld.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi Donald,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This is Gary Kramlich the current maintainer of Pidgin.  Please
>>>>> excuse
>>>>> > my tardiness in this matter as I haven't had much time to dedicate to
>>>>> > Pidgin in the past few weeks.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That said.  We are staging a new version which will have this
>>>>> updates,
>>>>> > but we will most likely miss the 20161016 date.  If we could get that
>>>>> > extended it would be great.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Also our code base has contains two clients that connect to AIM and
>>>>> as
>>>>> > I've learned recently they do not share keys.  The other clients name
>>>>> > is Finch and if we could get a set of keys for it that would be
>>>>> > awesome.  Otherwise we'll just reuse the Pidgin ones for the time
>>>>> > being.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Also is there a web portal or something where we can manage this
>>>>> keys?
>>>>> >  If so, please respond to me directly as I assume we'll want to
>>>>> > control access to it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Gary Kramlich <grim at reaperworld.com>
>>>>> >
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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