[Pidgin] #664: message window behaviour on incoming message should be customizeable

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#664: message window behaviour on incoming message should be customizeable
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  Reporter:  pidgin           |       Owner:  datallah                                                   
      Type:  enhancement      |      Status:  new                                                        
  Priority:  minor            |   Milestone:  2.1.0                                                      
 Component:  winpidgin (gtk)  |     Version:  2.0                                                        
Resolution:                   |    Keywords:  incoming message window behaviour minimized maximized focus
   Pending:  0                |  
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Comment (by iosys):

 Forgive me if I come off as a little irritated in this post, but something
 really pissed me off here.

 The response from the developers on this issue is somewhat inaccurate
 (arrogant?).  I have added this feature to my own software projects with
 little difficulty at all.  Perhaps it is a limitation of the developer
 and/or application framework rather than a 'deficiency' with the window
 manager in Windows.  Actually, seeing as how Pidgeon is one of those
 programs I can't live without, I wouldn't say the programmers are
 incapable, but it sounds like more of a problem with the framework or
 laziness.

 I understand that Pidgeon is free and there are many issues to deal with.
 But to simply disregard this issue and push it on to the big bad Microsoft
 is just bad form.  There is no so called hack I am aware of to make this
 work; many programs have this feature, including competing software like
 Trillion.  Another important thing ignored in this post is that Windows is
 the most used OS by a large margin and even more so in the business
 sector.  Saying that it's a problem with Windows is not very professional
 at all.  It's the OS you program for, not the other way around.  If you're
 going to claim it's unfeasible, at least give the real reason why.

 With the .NET framework and even old versions of VB, there is a simple
 property of the form class called "Window State" which you can change to
 'minimized' before loading the form.

 I really want this change to be considered, or a plugin made for it.  I've
 deployed Gaim/Pidgeon in my workplace (guess what - they don't run linux -
 and for good a reason) and the employees always ask how to make it stop
 popping up while they're typing.  The 'Hide new conversations' is just not
 useful for everyone.  Our internal email system serves that purpose
 already.  I personally just keep an IM window open and minimized to the
 taskbar, but nobody else wants to do that.  The ideal method of receiving
 new messages is to create the form minimized or without activating it and
 then flash/highlight it in the taskbar.  Or perhaps you could implement a
 periodic sound/visual notification while messages are pending in the
 system tray.

 Pidgeon is a great piece of software and I'm surprised to see the
 developers back down from a simple challenge by using empty assumptions
 and poor logic to support their claim.  If I am wrong about this, I will
 at least respect the reasons why.

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