[Pidgin] #1320: ICQ privacy settings automatically changes to non blocking

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#1320: ICQ privacy settings automatically changes to non blocking
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 Reporter:  sam_malenfant  |       Type:  defect
   Status:  new            |   Priority:  minor 
Component:  pidgin (gtk)   |    Version:  2.0.1 
 Keywords:                 |    Pending:  0     
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 Symptom: The ICQ account allows all users to connect.  Changing the
 privacy setting to "Only users on my buddies list" eventually reverts back
 to allow all users.

 This is a carry over from GAIM days.  Below is a truncated history (pardon
 out of sequence dates) and a suggestion the problem may be addressed in a
 rewrite of "libpurple", and that it is a little less prevalent with the
 2.00 Pidgin (though still exists).

 I'm the local IM champion, and would like to keep this issue alive so that
 its resolution will help us be able to standardize on Pidgin.  TIA.
 (Thanks Luke Schierer for cleanup/migration message)

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 Reported by:    cg0def          Assigned to:    MarkDoliner
 Priority:       minor   Milestone:      3.0.0
 Component:      libpurple       Version:        2.0
 Keywords:       icq block user  Cc:

 icq does not really support blocking users however there is an ignore list
 in the official client. The block user feature in pidgin does not work at
 all for ICQ and you also do not get a message saying that it would not
 work.

 The ICQ "block" list in Pidgin is actually the "invisible" list for ICQ.
 This is a known problem. I'm not sure of the status of any work to resolve
 the problem, but I believe it may be waiting on the privacy rewrite
 libpurple has needed for quite some time now.

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 Comment By: Eugene Crosser (crosser)
 Date: 2007-02-27 13:27

 During last year, increased bot/spam traffic on ICQ finally made me
 upgrade in the hope that recent versions have the problem fixed. Still, as
 of 2.0.0beta6, despite the privacy setting does not automatically change
 back to "Block only users below" any more, setting "allow only users on my
 buddy list" does not work as expected. That is to say, does not work at
 all: messages from accounts that are not on my buddy list, including spam,
 are displayed as before. Rather annoying.

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 Comment By: Etan Reisner (deryni9)
 Date: 2006-09-07 04:31

 First things first, the privacy dialog in gaim sucks. It is one of the
 worst dialogs gaim has ever had. It is also one of the hardest to
 redesign.
 The visibly selected option *does not* mean that that is the privacy
 setting that is applied for ICQ. ICQ has complicated privacy settings with
 multiple privacy lists that are in use all at the same time. gaim shows
 the
 privacy list that was last used in that dialog. So just because the dialog
 changes doesn't mean anything actually is different.
 All that being said, gaim also currently only implements the ICQ presence
 blocking privacy lists and not the message blocking lists. So, even if you
 block the spammers they can still send you messages.
 And once last thing, the reason that spammers found people so much when
 using gaim 1.5.0 is that that version of gaim set your account to be Web
 Aware (your status published on the website), the 2.0.0 betas have that
 setting as an option that defaults to off. Simply upgrading to the betas
 will likely cut the amount of spam *significantly* if not entirely.

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 Comment By: Sam M. (sam_malenfant)
 Date: 2006-05-11 10:07

 The pattern seems to be whenever GAIM wakes up after an idle
 time "away" and "sometimes" on restart, it checks with my
 (ICQ) account and incorrectly resets privacy to "block only
 the users below". If I stay active on the PC all day, and
 the connection is not reset, it sticks to my prefered "allow
 only users on buddy list". This suggests its a protocol
 problem reading the settings from my ICQ account.

 Besides fixing the protocol, an alternative workaround might
 be to have GAIM be authoritative for such settings rather
 than try to read it from the remote account.

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 Comment By: Luke Schierer (lschiere)
 Date: 2007-05-26 10:46

 As we have now renamed the project, and are migrating to
 developer.pidgin.im, I am closing this ticket. Please create a new ticket
 at http://developer.pidgin.im if this issue persists with 2.0.0

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