[Pidgin] #4986: automatic chat input field resizing should be optional, regression from 2.3

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Tue Apr 1 00:38:56 EDT 2008


#4986: automatic chat input field resizing should be optional, regression from 2.3
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  Reporter:  swbrown       |       Owner:                   
      Type:  enhancement   |      Status:  reopened         
  Priority:  minor         |   Milestone:                   
 Component:  pidgin (gtk)  |     Version:  2.4.0            
Resolution:                |    Keywords:  chat input resize
   Pending:  0             |  
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Comment (by deryni):

 Replying to [comment:175 kdorff]:
 No, as of yet we have not added the ability to control the minimal size.
 If we continue to receive complaints (valid complaints not just complaints
 for the sake of complaining) about the default two line size I at least (I
 can't speak for anyone else) am open to coming up with a way to allow for
 people to control the default/minimal height of the entry area. As we have
 seen a small handful of requests for both a larger default size and a
 smaller default size.

 I have repeatedly asked for constructive help and repeatedly asked not to
 be told that the only possible help is to revert the change or add an all-
 or-nothing preference. Which is exactly why the patch posted to this
 ticket is not something I have actively considered. I really do not
 believe an all-or-nothing switch is at all necessary and as such am
 unwilling to consider such a solution while there is still a chance of
 finding a real solution. At no point was this (or any other idea) rejected
 "just because it added a single option to [the] preferences [dialog]" but
 you are free to continue believing that as opposed to the actual reasons I
 (and others) have presented if doing say makes you feel better about not
 helping this move forward. I have routinely indicated that I am interested
 in ideas which help move the current design forward and which modify it to
 better serve all users without requiring a simple disabling switch, the
 fact that you (and so many other people) seem to have ignored (or just
 flat out missed) my comments to that effect is something I do not at all
 understand.

 My comments about the download numbers were *precisely* designed to
 indicate how ridiculous any such discussions about majorities and
 minorities, and vocality are *in their entirety*. The fact that you (and
 others) seem to only see the insanity when the concepts are presented from
 our side is exactly the problem I was trying to bring out. I don't expect
 the average user to do any of the things you suggest and it is exactly for
 that reason that I cannot believe that the numbers of people who do that
 represent anything approaching even a representative sample of users let
 alone the clear and "huge" majority it has so often been presented as. I
 hope this makes my point more clear, I would dearly love to do away with
 any and all comments on numbers of users one way or the other as that is
 an entirely unhelpful metric in each and every way.

 I might add that the fact that you are able, in essentially back-to-back
 sentences, to make the claim that the numbers of people who are willing to
 comment on this ticket is somehow representative of some larger unvoiced
 whole and yet that the numbers of people who aren't complaining (as seen
 as a portion of the volume of downloads from the SourceForge statistics)
 is not representative of anything is an amazing display of mental
 gymnastics of a caliber I am afraid I am not capable of. I am amazed at
 your masterful ability to claim that the fact that the number of people
 commenting here is clear evidence of a large untapped group of likeminded
 people while simultaneously claiming that the (larger) number of people
 who have not done so is *not* an indication of the number of people who
 disagree with you (and thus either agree with me or do not care in the
 slightest).

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Ticket URL: <http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/4986#comment:182>
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