[Pidgin] #4986: automatic chat input field resizing should be optional, regression from 2.3

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Tue Apr 1 00:54:13 EDT 2008


#4986: automatic chat input field resizing should be optional, regression from 2.3
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  Reporter:  swbrown       |       Owner:                   
      Type:  enhancement   |      Status:  reopened         
  Priority:  minor         |   Milestone:                   
 Component:  pidgin (gtk)  |     Version:  2.4.0            
Resolution:                |    Keywords:  chat input resize
   Pending:  0             |  
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Comment (by deryni):

 Replying to [comment:178 mortan]:
 You also missed my point entirely, my point was not that my numbers were
 correct, or accurate, or meaningful. My point was exactly the opposite; my
 numbers were entirely meaningless exactly the same way the constant
 assertions that the opinion presented in this ticket is secretly held by
 the majority of pidgin users is meaningless (and as I said before
 unverifiable).

 The case where different users use different ways to do the same thing,
 when both ways are equally valid, is *exactly* the case I am referring to
 when I say "when there is not one clearly correct behaviour". So yes, when
 there is not one correct method and no way to satisfy both/all of the
 equally valid and correct ways is when you need to add a preference. My
 *entire* goal in this ticket (and in all the other discussion venues for
 this issue) has been to attempt to determine if, in fact, there is *not* a
 suitable compromise. My attempts to do that have been greeted almost
 uniformly by insults about the effort I put into this, insults about how I
 clearly don't care about anyone, insults about my intelligence, and a
 blatant ignoring of my repeated requests for constructive comments. This
 is a most unhelpful and unfortunate reality and not one conducive to
 further attempts of this nature (not that I'm going to stop, I seem to be
 unable to help myself).

 "Please give an example in which way you (the developers) are attempting
 to reach a compromise." <- Have you *not* read anything I've said? Have
 you not noticed *any* of the times I have asked for people to give me real
 concrete ideas about how the current mechanism can be tweaked to suit them
 better? Have you not seen any of the time I've asked for people to explain
 to me *explicitely* what about the current mechanism is unacceptable to
 them? Have you further managed to not see that I have gotten next to no
 useful constructive responses to those requests? At no point have I flat
 out denied a user wish here without explanation, at no point have I not
 attempted to draw out further information and further ideas. The amazing
 ability people have to ignore that fact continues to astonish me.

 I challenge you to point me at a comment here which is a constructive
 approach to fixing the current mechanism to work better for a specific
 usage case (other than comments about the maximum size as we have already
 fixed that, exactly because we did in fact get concrete comments and
 usages). I further challenge you to point out where I put the presented
 patch down because I claimed that it is not the right way to handle the
 issue (without further explaining why I think that there is more work to
 be done in fixing the current mechanism). I further would like to point
 out that I have repeatedly indicated that I do not think an all-or-nothing
 preference is the right idea because I have repeatedly indicated that I
 think the current mechanism can be fixed (an idea I stand by and which I
 would still like help with).

 I have ignored *NOTHING* anyone here has said (at least not intentionally)
 and I would challenge someone to prove me wrong on this point. I whole-
 heartedly dislike the continued insinuations that I am not giving this the
 attention it deserves or that I am somehow failing to pay the due
 attention to ideas presented here. I am growing decidedly annoyed by these
 continued insinuations and would very much appreciate it if they were to
 stop.

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