[Pidgin] #4986: automatic chat input field resizing should be optional, regression from 2.3

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Wed Apr 2 11:36:09 EDT 2008


#4986: automatic chat input field resizing should be optional, regression from 2.3
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  Reporter:  swbrown       |       Owner:                   
      Type:  enhancement   |      Status:  reopened         
  Priority:  minor         |   Milestone:                   
 Component:  pidgin (gtk)  |     Version:  2.4.0            
Resolution:                |    Keywords:  chat input resize
   Pending:  0             |  
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Comment (by ccb):

 I think the major disconnect is *cultural*.  This has been a screamfest
 where both sides are talking past each other.  I don't understand the
 developer side of the argument at all.  The complainers are on about this:

 1. a heavily used feature was removed
 2. the removal of the feature violates 'the principle of least
 astonishment' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment
 3. most "old school" UNIX people HATE HATE HATE MDI.  MDI belongs in
 windows.  Some applications make sense as MDI but MDI haters can only cope
 if all of the subwindows are highly configurable.

 I tried to provide usable input:

 1. I said that I cannot compose outgoing messages in a two-line text input
 window.  At my usual resolution I can barely see it let alone type there.

 2. I said that I often have cause to compose largish messages

 3. I've had an X workstation on my desk for 23 years.  I've been at it for
 10 hours a day every day.  I've lived through UWM and Motif. If a program
 has multiple text panes, the X-windows programs ALWAYS make them
 resizable.  If a program has multiple toolbars and menus, X-windows
 programs SHOULD make them detachable and reorderable.


 The core issue is the cultural one.  Once one establishes a work flow for
 X windows and uses it for a quarter century your expectations for how
 applications are going to behave sink in pretty deep.  If the evolution
 developers were to decide by FIAT that the splitter pane between messages-
 list and message-content would be fixed at 4 messages in messages-list an
 identical firestorm would ensue.

 http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/ch01s06.html

 The FunPidgin link came up empty...

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