[Pidgin] #9046: Auto-away sets away message...

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#9046: Auto-away sets away message...
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 Reporter:  Daemonax   |        Owner:  deryni      
     Type:  defect     |       Status:  new         
Milestone:             |    Component:  pidgin (gtk)
  Version:  2.5.5      |   Resolution:              
 Keywords:  Auto away  |  
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Comment(by deryni):

 sambrightman: You have this happen even when pidgin handles returning you
 from the auto-away status itself?

 Yes, the auto-away status should be enabled and disabled cleanly (at the
 very least if pidgin handles it on its own, if the user manually comes
 back we can't automatically clear the message because they may not want
 that).

 If pidgin is not cleanly removing the message when it unsets the auto-away
 status that is a bug and should be fixed.

 gjmf: You seem to have misunderstood my point. My point is that having the
 default Away status have a message is not in-and-of-itself a problem. The
 problem is that the message is not discoverable until it has been used the
 first time, that one cannot (without creating it manually) have an auto-
 away status of Away without a message, and that there may be a bug whereby
 pidgin is "leaking" this default text to the 'returned from auto-away'
 status.

 There is absolutely no resistance to fixing any of the actual issues, the
 issue is that I'm not sure we know what all the actual issues are.

 mwoodling: It is built-in default text for the Away status in pidgin. I am
 only surprised that people are surpised by it because it has (quite
 literally) been in the pidgin source as the default text for the default
 Away status for a decade (and the current "problem" of it being largely
 undiscoverable has been unchanged since the pidgin 2.0.0 betas were
 released in 2006-2007). I'm not at all surprised that having a largely
 undiscoverable message surprises people.

 I would also like to re-iterate that I really am entirely amazed at the
 strength of the reaction to an issue that is entirely (and simply)
 avoidable. (I am not in any way trying to invalidate the annoyance I am
 just truly astonished at how deeply it seems to have affected people.)

 gjmf: Do either of my proposed solutions satisfy your criteria? (I'm not
 fishing for the bounty, and wouldn't claim it even if I did it, I'm just
 trying to understand what exactly you want and whether my solutions
 qualify.) Namely that there either be a default "Away with no message" as
 well as the current "Away with the historic default message" statuses
 and/or that pidgin create an "Away with historic default message" status
 by default and (again by default) set that as the status to use for auto-
 away? (Also, are you really unable to just create the Away status with no
 message for the staff and be done with this?)

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