[Pidgin] #9046: Auto-away sets away message...

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#9046: Auto-away sets away message...
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 Reporter:  Daemonax   |        Owner:  deryni      
     Type:  defect     |       Status:  new         
Milestone:             |    Component:  pidgin (gtk)
  Version:  2.5.5      |   Resolution:              
 Keywords:  Auto away  |  
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Comment(by sambrightman):

 Continually repeating that the "fix" is simple: it's pretty obvious to
 everyone that changing it is simple, but your viewpoint is predicated on
 it being an issue in the first place. Repeating how simple it is feels
 like belittling the developers, and isn't going to help. So try making
 clear, general points that stand up to criticism from people who *aren't
 you*. Some people like this behaviour, remember?

 I just installed the Portuguese version of Pidgin (there are some UI
 issues here too: installer implies language might only be for installer,
 and localisation is not complete) and it sets the status in Portuguese. I
 don't think the language criticism is in-and-of itself a problem. You have
 to expect when installing a product in a certain language that some of
 that language will be seen by your friends/colleagues. If I was
 communicating with someone in France, I would not be either surprised or
 annoyed to see some French status or so, and that would apply to other
 types of program too. For example, I often see German/French/Portuguese
 email text for quotations/forwards.

 The idea that the text currently reads as if written by the user is more
 valid criticism, I take that point. I'm not sure I would call it "awful"
 and enough to gain a minority their change (if indeed it is a minority,
 but deryni suggests so). Again, it is not uncommon to see idiomatic text,
 such as in emails (the iPhone text is annoying, but the more pertinent
 example is "on x/y/z p wrote:" which usually has a default, is localised
 etc. exactly as Pidgin is). No?

 At the least though, the preferences drop-down should show the messages
 that will be used.

 Deryni:

 To play advocate: removing the message seems unlikely to cause problems
 with existing users that like/expect it: they will still be set away. If
 you think it's better without, just take it out - the biggest non-selfish
 argument against it is that it's duplicating the "away" information IMO.
 If certain people really find it world-endingly annoying and are
 sufficiently non-goal oriented to argue rather than change it, the hassle
 will only continue.

 I am more interested in helping find the "real" bug of sometimes not auto-
 away cancelling. Should I open a new one even if I have little possibility
 to reproduce? Also, auto-away sometimes doesn't seem to kick in after the
 allotted time... had some trouble testing. Is my definition of idle
 different from Pidgin's?

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