msn-pecan now has direct connection support (fast file transfers)

Felipe Contreras felipe.contreras at
Sat Dec 29 13:16:08 EST 2007

On Dec 25, 2007 4:10 PM, John Bailey <rekkanoryo at> wrote:
> Mark Doliner wrote:
> > I've always gotten the impression that they've done this in the past, and I
> > see it as only a matter of time before it happens with MSNP9, which is why I
> > think it's very important that we move to MSNP15.
> >
> > -Mark
> I, too, am in favor of moving to MSNP1[145], if for no other reason than to
> silence the complaints about the lack of status (personal) messages.  However, I
> would like to point out something that Stu occasionally reminds us of--MSN has
> disabled old protocol versions only once, and this was when they moved to
> requiring SSL for login.  This was when we moved from MSNP2 (or whatever it was)
> to our current MSNP9 implementation's initial form.

We had that implemented in the MSNP11 quite some time before the
MSNP13 work started.

> MSN is currently still supporting MSNP9 as needed because the only existing
> official MSN clients for Windows 9x are capable of nothing better than MSNP9, as
> I recall.  I believe the newest official client for Windows 2000 supports only
> MSNP11 and older, as well.  Although XP and Vista are making inroads into the
> installed base, there are still a lot of users with Windows Me or earlier
> DOS-based Windows OSes, and I don't think Microsoft is willing to anger quite
> that many users just yet.  (Of course, only they know exactly how many MSNP9 and
> MSNP11 users they actually have, and on which Windows versions.)  We'd also
> likely get advance warning and a hard cutoff date, just like we did when MSNP2
> was decommissioned as described above.  I'm also willing to bet they'll cut the
> cord on P9 and P11 at the same time, if they ever do.
> In short, while supporting a newer version of MSN's protocol is important, I
> think it's safe to say that we still have forseeable life left in MSNP9.

I don't see any reason to go straightforwardly to MSNP15, so I'm not
going to do that with msn-pecan.

Felipe Contreras

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