Fwd: Re: msn-pecan now has direct connection support (fast file transfers)

John Bailey rekkanoryo at rekkanoryo.org
Sun Dec 30 20:01:03 EST 2007

I forgot to include the list on this reply.


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Message-ID: <47783E99.70005 at rekkanoryo.org>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:58:01 -0500
From: John Bailey <rekkanoryo at rekkanoryo.org>
In-Reply-To: <94a0d4530712301623g24dd3fe6q9b20e8d1950d5d5b at mail.gmail.com>

Felipe Contreras wrote:
>> I find it hard to believe, that out of all the developers, Mark,
>> wouldn't give guidance.
> Of course, he gave me guidance about how to do it the way he though
> was the proper one.

Then clearly Mark was *trying* to work with you.  Not everything is perfect, or
even good, on a first pass.  It is certainly not unreasonable to need to revise
patches many times.  I recall discussing patches more than twice with developers
on several occasions.

> We share the same opinion then. GObjectification of libpurple is
> something that must be done.

Yes, it is.  The problem is there is only one Gary and his time is finite.  To
my knowledge, no one else remotely interested in this has contributed anything
to Gary's gobjectification branch/project.  Anyone can complain about the
constant statements regarding lack of time if they like, but the fact of the
matter is that it's true.  I have looked at helping with this branch, but I get
lost in the sea of merges every time I try.  I suspect this may be true of
others, as well.

>> That'd be awesome if we could make this happen.  I don't mean actually
>> allow 3 prpls for the same protocol, but maybe with a configure argument
>> or something to select the most stable one while still allowing a
>> fallback or something.
> That would probably require some code reorganization in order to split
> the different layers of the MSNP, something I'm already planning for
> msn-pecan, but I won't touch the MSNP15 code.

I'm not sure I like the idea of having one prpl with so many protocol versions
supported via different configure arguments and whatnot.  We have enough of a
mess with GLib and GTK version checking for compatibility with the stone age; we
really don't need to add MORE of a mess just to support a hundred different MSN


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