libpurple + dbus - pidgin

[Anil Gupta]

Roy - we use a three tier architecture. Clients talk with a server in a
unified and compact protocol while the server offsets the load by talking
with all the IM clients etc.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Kamanashis Roy Shuva <
kamanashisroy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, I am not sure why you are not using J2ME clients .. I am not sure
> how you like to use libpurple in mobiles ..
>
>
> You can try bombus or miniim ;) ..
>
> 2008/4/15 Anil Gupta <800pbx2 at gmail.com>:
> > Thanks for your response.
> >
> > Please find my follow-up questions interspersed.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > b) Can I use dbus with only libpurple without pidgin ui? I used
> > > > --disable-gtkui to skip pidgin as I was interested only in
> > > > libpurple. But I wasnt sure how pidgin can be used for events
> > > > generation. The howto explains that pidgin when loading uses the
> > > > dbus address to listen and send events.
> > >
> > > Yes, you should be able to use dbus with only libpurple without pidgin
> ui.
> > I
> > > know you can access a lot of libpurple's functionality using dbus, but
> I
> > have
> > > doubts that you'll be able to access everything.
> >
> > ## I think you are right on to write a seperate main which exposes
> > libpurple's functionality through dbus. I am looking into it.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It might help to think of libpurple as the core of an instant
> messaging
> > > program rather than as a library with functions that you call.  The
> > programs
> > > "main" method is a part of the ui (either Pidgin or Finch), but
> libpurple
> > is
> > > responsible for saving your preferences and accounts and what not.  It
> is
> > not
> > > possible to use libpurple standalone because there is no "main" method
> in
> > > libpurple.
> > >
> > > So you would need to at least write a "ui" to bootstrap the libpurple
> > process.
> > >  See libpurple/example/nullclient.c for a very basic example.
> >
> > ## I looked at nullclient.c but it does not have anything to do with
> dbus.
> > Does dbus initialization happen inside libpurple somewhere or does it
> happen
> > in the ui clients?
> >
> >
> > > But using Java
> > > and dbus to write the user interface code for libpurple seems awkward
> to
> > me.
> > > Why not just use C?
> >
> > ## We do not have UI. UI is all client based on mobile phones. We
> support
> > palm, bb, brew, nokia, java,  ppc, windows ce etc. but  some omf the
> > libpurple components would be used.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > c) How scalable in pidgin? We have over 15k users who would like to
> get
> > > > connected. We do not mind scaling by adding boxes but does pidgin
> > support
> > > > scaling vertically? Any tips on this would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > d) I hear that pidgin is a single thread approach for the main. What
> > > > happens if the thread dies? Is there a recovery mechanism? Any
> > > > scripts to restart pidgin to the previous state if it disconnects
> > > > with be handy.
> > >
> > > Hmm, why would the thread die?  That seems akin to a single-threaded
> > process
> > > crashing (ie something that should not happen).  No, there is no
> recovery
> > > mechanism short of restarting Pidgin and reconnecting.  Pidgin should
> > connect
> > > automatically when you start it, and accounts should return to their
> > previous
> > > state (assuming Pidgin is able to write the previous state to
> > $HOME/.purple/*.xml)
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ## Does the libpurple store any account profile? I believe no.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > g) For load distrbution, I think I should be able to use multiple
> > instances
> > > > of pidgin tied to different dbus addresses and let the main server
> > manage
> > > > the distribution of connection to various pidgin instances. Can
> multiple
> > > > instances of pidgin run on the same box? Is the approach correct?
> > >
> > > That sounds like it would work.  Yes, multiple instances of Pidgin can
> run
> > on
> > > the same box.  That approach seems reasonable to me.
> >
> > ## I will be trying it out in the next two weeks and keep you updated.
> BTW,
> > is there any job forum where we can hire a developer to do this for us
> as we
> > are totally new with dbus and libpurple both. Though its a week work, we
> > would like someone knowledgeable to do the things right the first time
> > rather than keep trying for the correct solution.
> >
> > Meanwhile, please answer the follow-up questions raised.
> >
> > Thank you very much.
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>
>
>
> --
> -- Thanks
>
> Kamanashis Roy
>
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