msn-pecan now has direct connection support (fast file transfers)

Felipe Contreras felipe.contreras at gmail.com
Fri Jan 4 15:41:51 EST 2008


On 1/2/08, Richard Laager <rlaager at wiktel.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 16:07 -0600, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> > So, if I want to set my personal message to 'party friday' properly
> > I'd have to add a new status, set the message to that, and specify
> > that I want to keep it. Save and use it.
> >
> > Later on, I set my status to 'in a meeting', on my XMPP account I
> > would still have 'party friday'.
>
> Let me try this again with a series of examples:
>
> My status is "Available" with no message at the moment. I want to set my
> personal status message to say, "I just won the lottery."
>
> I pick Available again to get the message box back. I type "I just won
> the lottery." I'm done: My status is now Available with that message.
>
> Then, I go to cash the lottery check, so I set my status to a custom "Be
> Right Back" status that I already have. (With my proposed change,) I
> have a blank message on that custom status and "use the existing
> message" checked. My status becomes "Be Right Back" on MSN and "Away" on
> XMPP. My message is still "I just won the lottery."

That's the thing I didn't get before: the check is for the existing
message, not the cone being edited.

So, yes, even thought I don't like this way it can work.

> I come back and pick my "won the lottery" status out of the recent
> transient status list. As a transient status with a message, it would
> take over the message and I'd be back to Available with "I just won the
> lottery."

Ohh, now I see why I couldn't delete them. (OT)

So I'll have a "won the lottery" transient status for each status I go
into (available, away, do not disturb).

> > XMPP users expect the status message to be something that describes
> > the current status. Sleeping, in a meeting, be right back, can't type
> > now, grabbing food, palying wow, hacking, etc.
> >
> > MSN users expect the personal message to be whatever the contact wants
> > to say. I'm sick, happy new year, muse's concert was amazing, happy
> > b-day chris, couch potato mode.
> >
> > I don't think mixing the two is a good idea, they are not the same
> > thing with different name.
>
> I disagree that these are all that separate. For example, how is "I'm
> sick" different than "can't type now"? I will agree that "Happy New
> Year" is not an action or a state, but I don't think it needs a
> different UI. If you think it does, please provide a use case that would
> be easier than my proposal above.

I'd bet some people have a "can't type now" kind of custom message,
and not one for "i'm sick". Both are statuses, but the difference is
on the urgency, and frequency. Why would someone create a custom
message for something that seldom happens and barely affects his
conversations?

-- 
Felipe Contreras




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