Acer IMApp source

Fri Oct 24 13:55:58 EDT 2008

>I have an AcerAspireOne laptop that uses linpus.com lite.
>It includes an IM application that uses the webcam and it uses libpurple.

Hi James,

    Your right, that's entirely possible. I think that what is taking the
Pidgin dev's such development effort to get voice and video in pidgin itself
is a little more complex than you might think.

    Because the way Pidgin works is through protocol plugins (prpl's), an
individual plugin could easily support its own voice and video
functionality. I know of quite a few that do, from being a participant in
this list. I think that Felipe's msn pecan plugin supports it's own voice
and video system.

    But the developers who work very extensively on pidgin feel that
implimenting voice and video on a plugin by plugin basis is not what they
want. they want to have a single unified voice and video interface for ALL
of the protocols. Write it once, use it forever, so to speak and that is a
little... harder than doing voice and video on the protocol level,just
because of the basic differences between all of them.

    Maybe you could take a look at the effort being made on the voice and
video support on pidgin and see if the development (not stable, prone to
crashing, and not the developers liability if it breaks stuff) branch for it
is working well enough for you to use it so far. if you like, you can help
the folks working on it by reporting problems and testing and such.

    And keep in mind that im just a minor participant. I could be Completely
wrong on some of the things i said. Other folks will be able to give you a
better reply.

-Mike

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> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:59:50 -0400
> From: Austin Clements <amdragon at MIT.EDU>
> Subject: Raising conversation tabs over D-Bus
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> 'Lo.  I'm integrating Pidgin into my window manager and would like to
> be able to create new Pidgin conversations over D-Bus.  Unfortunately,
> pidgin_conv_present_conversation doesn't raise the tab of a
> conversation unless it was called in response to a GTK event (even
> though it unconditionally raises the window containing the tab).
> Thus, new conversations appear in background tabs and there's no way
> to foreground an existing conversation over D-Bus.
>
> Is this a bug/oversight or a fundamental limitation?  The code is
> fairly explicit about singling out GTK events, but gives no
> justification as to why.
>
> Thanks in advance,
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> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:37:01 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "James" <bjlockie at lockie.ca>
> Subject: Acer IMApp source
> To: devel at pidgin.im
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> I have an AcerAspireOne laptop that uses linpus.com lite.
> It includes an IM application that uses the webcam and it uses libpurple.
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:45:10 +0200
> From: Tobias Beck <vitrex at gmx.de>
> Subject: Protocol with message confirmation
> To: devel at pidgin.im
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> Hello,
>
> is there an IM protocol which shows an error if my chat partner didn't
> get my message? Currently I am using ICQ, but because of network
> problems several messages (in both directions) get lost and I am not
> notified about this.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Tobias
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> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:49:17 -0600
> From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im>
> Subject: Re: Protocol with message confirmation
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> Tobias Beck wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > is there an IM protocol which shows an error if my chat partner didn't
> > get my message? Currently I am using ICQ, but because of network
> > problems several messages (in both directions) get lost and I am not
> > notified about this.
>
> In XMPP we have an extension for message receipts, but I don't think it
> is widely implemented yet.
>
> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0184.html
>
> Peter
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:04:36 +0300
> From: "Felipe Contreras" <felipe.contreras at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Protocol with message confirmation
> To: "Tobias Beck" <vitrex at gmx.de>
> Cc: devel at pidgin.im
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> 2008/10/24 Tobias Beck <vitrex at gmx.de>:
> > Hello,
> >
> > is there an IM protocol which shows an error if my chat partner didn't
> > get my message? Currently I am using ICQ, but because of network
> > problems several messages (in both directions) get lost and I am not
> > notified about this.
>
> MSN supports this.
>
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> Felipe Contreras
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