Michael Secord gizmokid2005 at
Sat Dec 19 12:29:10 EST 2009

YAY? You can do something that pidgin doesn't? Throwing together some 
php scripts for a website is not pidgin, nor even a replacement.

Though, way to go on your ignorance, I must add that. Like they say, 
"Ignorance is bliss!"

(Sorry list, I couldn't resist on this one).

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: geeeez...
From: Dirk <noisyb at>
To: devel at
Date: 12/19/2009 12:25 PM

> pidgin is chat turned into hopeless bloat that opens popup windows..
> someone has had too much time on his hands and kept adding and adding
> bullshit instead to fuck off and having a KISS principle
> ( IM client... popup windows
> that can't be prevented without having to read/know something is the
> result... annoying..
> i'll just put some php icq (and irc too) classes together on a https and
> it WILL BE awesome..
> Михаил Лукин wrote:
>> Pidgin is open source. This is what beautiful in open source: you can
>> take Pidgin, Empathy or anything else and re-write code as you like.
>> Pidgin behaves this way because we want it to do so. There is a lot of
>> weird stuff in Pidgin, but after feature by feature comparison of
>> Pidgin with other soft - Pidgin is the only IM client on my machine.
>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Dirk<noisyb at> wrote:
>>> well... i am already at a point where my IM doesn't open bullshit
>>> windows...
>>> after 5 minutes development time that i spend doing something else..
>>> how old is pidgin?
>>> Ethan Blanton wrote:
>>>> Dirk spake unto us the following wisdom:
>>>>> i will de-install this piece of shit and write my own IM...
>>>> Sounds great! We look forward to the competition. Competition always
>>>> benefits the user. You'll probably have to use raw X11 calls, if you
>>>> want to keep the library dependency list short; most of those
>>>> dependencies are for Gtk+. I'm sure you know that, though, since
>>>> you're going to be writing a large and complicated piece of software.
>>>> Also, you could look into the conversation creation preferences and
>>>> your window manager settings, if you liked. You can probably mitigate
>>>> the effects of windows popping up. There are also ICQ privacy
>>>> settings which may be helpful. Kiddie tantrums sometimes work, too --
>>>> not very often, but it's worth a try.
>>>> Ethan
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