Status of main branch, and debugging on Windows
jean_seb at videotron.ca
Wed Feb 12 20:07:38 EST 2014
> On the MSN side, IIRC, the problem is the change from MSNP15 to MSN18
> which changed all the mechanism used to send data. Here, we have a
> dilema, invest time on MSN knowing it is dead and it is just a matter
> of time for MS to shut down the servers or fix the issues and hope
> they don't kill the servers soon?
> You can guess I have been on the "it is dead, it doesn't worth a
> minute" side. =P
> Anyway, it would be nice to get that fixed but... the time... and MS,
> and MSNP is really really undocumented and it is a pain.
Yes I've read about this. I wanted to see for myself. Because sending
from Pidgin to Pidgin (still through MSN) the smileys show up fine. So I
think that explanation doesn't fit... (unless there is something I don't
know, which there is only a 99% chance of :-) )
I guess that would happen if Pidgin used MSNP15 all the time for
example... but then why would that prevent Pidgin from displaying
smileys that are already downloaded locally? It's just a replace the
string with the smiley kind of thing in that case, isn't it?
I'm sure I can have a look, see if I can deduce something... We'll see
if anything comes out of it.
As for MSN shutting down their servers, as far as I know they have no
plans to do that. They have discontinued the MSN client, not the
protocol or the servers. When you log in to Skype using a Windows Live
ID / hotmail address (as opposed to a Skype account), you are still on
the MSN servers using the MSN protocol (at least that's my understanding
from reading what I could on the subject).
But in my case, my motivation doesn't even take that technical fact (or
speculation) into account - I have a group of users who would rather
continue using MSN as long as they can, than find an alternative (Skype
is a no-go because of the client mainly, and other services I have
suggested such as Jabber seem even less reliable than MSN...). So I
would like to fix the one problem they have using MSN through Pidgin
(the smileys when communicating with the official MSN client) because I
personally hate having to keep them on the 2.7.4 version (I know -
I know it's a minor thing, and again, I wouldn't have this problem if
they just all accepted to use Pidgin but some stubbornly prefer to use
the official MSN client... Damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess.
Jean-Sebastien Guay jean_seb at videotron.ca
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