NetworkManager dependency

[Gary Kramlich]

https://developer.gnome.org/gio/stable/GNetworkMonitor.html since GLib 2.32
:-D

So who wants to tackle this?

Thanks,

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Gary Kramlich

On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Gary Kramlich <grim at reaperworld.com> wrote:

> Actually, if all we're doing is checking network status and handling a
> signal on (dis)?connect we should check if we can just do it via GIO.  That
> way it should just work, removes a dependency, and everyone is hopefully
> happy :-D  I'll take a look when I have some time later.
>
> Thanks,
>
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> Gary Kramlich
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Michael McConville <mmcco at mykolab.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Jorge Villaseñor wrote:
>> > Michael McConville wrote:
>> > > Ethan Blanton wrote:
>> > > > Gary Kramlich spake unto us the following wisdom:
>> > > > > Wait, are we actually talking about disabling by default instead
>> of
>> > > > > updating to the newer version that'll make things better?
>> > > >
>> > > > I think they're two separate issues, actually.  But a newer version
>> of
>> > > > NM won't really *fix* its crapitudity, it's rather endemic.  It will
>> > > > just take care of some specific complaints we have (the nature of
>> > > > which I don't recall at the moment).
>> > > >
>> > > > I am ambivalent on enable or disable by default; I simply said that
>> it
>> > > > may be reasonable to disable by default.  Mike simply uses systems
>> > > > that don't work properly with a wide range of software (including
>> NM),
>> > > > so he doesn't like it. ;-)
>> > >
>> > > True, to an extent.  :-)  NM does seem like an eminently optional
>> add-on
>> > > feature, though. As far as I can tell, we only use it to get a hint of
>> > > whether the network is up.
>> > >
>> > > I'm also biased against NM in general, having fought its VPN-related
>> > > bugs in the past.
>> > >
>> >
>> > I agree with explicit configuration so users know what they are
>> building.
>> >
>> > I would suggest we take our biases out and let the user or distributor
>> > decide what they want in their builds.
>> >
>> > I don't recall which functionallity does NM provide to us, if it worth
>> > it or not, but I think that is a different discussion.
>>
>> I didn't mean for that bias comment to be taken particularly seriously.
>> :-)
>>
>> I think we all agree that the configuration should be explicit. It seems
>> like the discussion is just whether or not NM should be on by default.
>> What are your thoughts on that? I think it should probably be off by
>> default because it's only used for a minor supporting feature and it's
>> usually only available on one platform.
>>
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> Thanks,
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> Gary Kramlich <grim at reaperworld.com>
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