State of Pidgin: Attracting and Maintaining New Contributors

Coyo T Stormcaller coyo at
Wed Oct 4 12:47:28 EDT 2017

Gitlab is definitely the way to go, long term.

On Tue, 2017-10-03 at 12:15 +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote:
> On 2017-10-03, 05:58 GMT, Gary Kramlich wrote:
> > As anyone who's followed the project knows, we've been 
> > suffering from a lack of contributors for quite some time now.
> > 
> > I believe there are many reasons to this.  Many of which I'm trying
> > to
> > address in these emails.  I've already taken steps for a few of the
> > other
> > ones.
> I will be the one who says it, so that you may have somebody to 
> shout at:
>     Git*b (that's GitHub, or GitLab if you prefer free solution, 
>     as I do)
>     and git.
> I don’t want for a second discuss git/mercurial on its technical 
> merits, but I am looking around me and I see that developers 
> spoke and the answer is git.
> I saw like two or more years all my Java colleagues (I work for 
> Red Hat, and for me it means mostly JBoss people) run over to 
> GitHub and they don’t seem to look back.  I am not sure whether 
> I understand where tea leaves go, but it feels to me that with 
> the current whatever-is-going-in-Oracle-around-Java we may see
> another mad rush towards GitHub in other parts of the Java world 
> soon.
> I work closely with Mozilla people, and although the main 
> Firefox repository is still Hg, all new development is on GitHub 
> (e.g., and 
> The same goes for Python. 
> points to as main repository.  
> Enough said.
> By insisting on using minority technology, you are pushing the 
> project to a weird and out of the 
> mainstream. If you want to lower barriers of entry, then this is 
> one (relatively, comparing to othes) low-hanging fruit to pick.
> I could write about this way more, but I don't think it is 
> necessary. All arguments were voiced, heard, and perhaps now is 
> the time to reasses them.
> After supporting host-your-own-data movement, burning endless 
> hours on maintaining necessary software, being very happy with 
> my local installation of Bugzilla, I finally gave up and 
> is for last couple of 
> years on GitLab and I don't regret it. It is where my 
> users/contributors find me.
> Best,
> Matěj

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