Pidgin 2.7.2 released!
jfs at debian.org
Wed Jul 28 04:40:42 EDT 2010
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:08:52PM -0400, Daniel Atallah wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:00, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino <jfs at debian.org> wrote:
> > On 26 July 2010 17:23, David Bala??ic <david.balazic at comtrade.com> wrote:
> >> Also having to set env variables to make a selection is...
> >> C'mon, it is 2010!
> > Pidgin in Windows currently relies on a registry key which is:
> > a) set by the installer
> > b) difficult to change (you need to knwo the NSIS codes and language associated)
> This isn't entirely accurate, see
Agree, it doesn't rely on only the registry key. But the use of
PIDGINLANG environment variable as an alternatible is not that much of
an option when users have to select the 'localization' component in
I'm not sure if environment variables can be configured through a
program (I believe they can't) maybe the best way is to provide
through the GUI this option and introduce a registry key under
HKEY_CURRENT_USER which he user can control without being an admin.
Note that I'm suggesting a new key instead of overloading the existing
key (HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\pidgin\Installer language)
Windows users are not all that used to using environment variables, if
there is a need (and I believe there is) to set the language from
within the GUI then it should be handled by a registry key that the
program can edit.
> > As far a I know there's no need to use environment variables. That is
> > not what I was suggesting. Windows provides information of user's
> > chosen locale and selected language in his environment. Currently, as
> > far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong, this is:
> > a) not used by the installer to automatically select and install the
> > proper localization
> I believe that this is incorrect; NSIS will choose the current locale
> by default if it is available.
> Also, the Pidgin translation for the selected installer language
> (however it is selected) will be installed by default.
That's not what I've seen in my tests. In a Windows XP system
localized into Spanish the installer did not select the 'es'
localization component by itself. The user had to manually select it.
I have been explaining this to users over e-mail, since the policy
change I've received ~14 emails asking for this (the real number of
users with this issue that have *not* contacted me through e-mail is
surely higher). I've added a new FAQ item this morning to try to
explain this, but the default behaviour should try to make things
easier for the user.
> > b) not used by Pidgin in Windows to select one of the available
> > localizations at %ProgramFiles%\Pidgin\locale\
> This is also not exactly correct; it is the default behavior of Pidgin
> to use the system locale if there is no overridden selection (e.g. by
> the user's language selection in the installer or via the PIDGINLANG
> environment variable).
However, on a default installation (using the installer) there *is* an
overriden selection through the language selection in the installer.
That is, the installer sets the registry key
(HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\pidgin\Installer language) and even *if*
the user selects the localization component he will still be shown
Pidgin in English unles he configures PIDGINLANG or changes the key.
I'm wondering if the installer should set the registry key if
installing in English. Maybe it would be best that, if English is
selected, a prompt is show to the user wether to install (or not)
*all* languages available and prevent setting the registry key so the
user could select from those.
> I don't think it is that simple, please see the FAQ about how it works
> and think about why changing that might be (even more) confusing to
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