Maillist config (Was: Gentoo Fun)

[Ethan Blanton]

Oliver Schinagl spake unto us the following wisdom:
> Ethan Blanton schreef:
> > For reliability, you should be using List-Id or X-Been-There.  This is
> > in fact quite superior to using any of To, Cc, From, or subject
> > munging, as it captures Bccs and threads which are taken off-list,
> > both.  As far as display, my mailer marks the mailing list just fine
> > -- please don't ask for other people to adopt broken behavior to make
> > up for the inadequacies of your software.
>
> what is your mailer? cause Thunderbird doesn't.

Mutt.  It does.  I have, in my .muttrc:

subscribe devel at pidgin.im

It marks every email to the mailing list in the message index.  It
also understands threading, which makes it quite annoying when people
start a brand new thread by replying to a message from an unrelated
thread (like this one, for example).

> Subjects shouldn't be that long to begin with, and it's not a waste, if 
> it makes it utterly clear in your inbox. Sometimes i use webmail 
> (squirrel or horde) and those certainly do Not have fancy mailing list 
> thingers.

... but it's already utterly clear in my inbox, so it *is* a waste.

Think of it this way; would you want to have to drive more slowly on
the roadway, because some people have crappy cars that can't reach an
appropriate speed?

If you really need such broken behavior, the following (untested)
procmail recipe should provide it:

:0:
* ^List-Id: .*<devel.pidgin.im>
SUBJECT=|formail -x Subject
:0fw
|formail -I "Subject: [devel] $SUBJECT"

> I'd just like to be able to quickly glance at my inbox, no matter what 
> client/where I am (go imap!) and see what's from a list, and what not, 
> so that I can pick out that 1 mail I was waiting for.

I use mutt from everywhere, via ssh.  This may or may not work for
you, but it means I don't have to ask for broken behavior to
compensate for substandard mail handling software.

> I'd agree that it be very nice/confienient for mail clients to be able 
> to handle this kinda stuff (better obviously then thunderbird is doing 
> it now by default) but, 10 chars extra in that subject would be nice :p

Actually, those 10 extra characters would be quite annoying.

> Anyway, since my post to this list a few weeks ago basically went 
> unnoticed ([Ekiga-list] Ekiga & Pidgin merge?) I'll be unsubscribing 
> soon anyway, 200+ mails a day is gettin' to much (other lists too)
> 
> Thanks for your reply/explanation though, didn't know that mailling list 
> info was even hiding in my mails.

There's a lot of good stuff in mail headers, as well as a lot of cruft.

Ethan

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determined to commit crimes.
		-- Cesare Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishments", 1764
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