oliver at are-b.org
Fri Jul 20 07:20:12 EDT 2007
The thing is, I totally get your point and agree. The fact of the matter
is however, that people are lazy. And i tweak/tinker with a lot of
stuff, but some thing should _just_ work.
So ok, maybe thunderbird is a crappy reader and all, but the flaw in
your example is, why would you drive slow on a road, just cause
everybody else driving slowly? Well first of all, there's a speed limit.
So that each car pretty much chuggs along the same speed. And then, not
everybody wants/needs/is a car mechanic with a sleek sportscar, feat.
Ethan Blanton schreef:
> Oliver Schinagl spake unto us the following wisdom:
>> Ethan Blanton schreef:
>>> For reliability, you should be using List-Id or X-Been-There. This is
>>> in fact quite superior to using any of To, Cc, From, or subject
>>> munging, as it captures Bccs and threads which are taken off-list,
>>> both. As far as display, my mailer marks the mailing list just fine
>>> -- please don't ask for other people to adopt broken behavior to make
>>> up for the inadequacies of your software.
>> what is your mailer? cause Thunderbird doesn't.
> Mutt. It does. I have, in my .muttrc:
yah, but sometimes it's not to feel part of the 21st centuary and be all
> subscribe devel at pidgin.im
> It marks every email to the mailing list in the message index. It
> also understands threading, which makes it quite annoying when people
> start a brand new thread by replying to a message from an unrelated
> thread (like this one, for example).
>> Subjects shouldn't be that long to begin with, and it's not a waste, if
>> it makes it utterly clear in your inbox. Sometimes i use webmail
>> (squirrel or horde) and those certainly do Not have fancy mailing list
>> thingers.devel at pidgin.im
> ... but it's already utterly clear in my inbox, so it *is* a waste.
> Think of it this way; would you want to have to drive more slowly on
> the roadway, because some people have crappy cars that can't reach an
> appropriate speed?
> If you really need such broken behavior, the following (untested)
> procmail recipe should provide it:
> * ^List-Id: .*<devel.pidgin.im>
> SUBJECT=|formail -x Subject
> |formail -I "Subject: [devel] $SUBJECT"
>> I'd just like to be able to quickly glance at my inbox, no matter what
>> client/where I am (go imap!) and see what's from a list, and what not,
>> so that I can pick out that 1 mail I was waiting for.
> I use mutt from everywhere, via ssh. This may or may not work for
> you, but it means I don't have to ask for broken behavior to
> compensate for substandard mail handling software.
>> I'd agree that it be very nice/confienient for mail clients to be able
>> to handle this kinda stuff (better obviously then thunderbird is doing
>> it now by default) but, 10 chars extra in that subject would be nice :p
> Actually, those 10 extra characters would be quite annoying.
>> Anyway, since my post to this list a few weeks ago basically went
>> unnoticed ([Ekiga-list] Ekiga & Pidgin merge?) I'll be unsubscribing
>> soon anyway, 200+ mails a day is gettin' to much (other lists too)
>> Thanks for your reply/explanation though, didn't know that mailling list
>> info was even hiding in my mails.
> There's a lot of good stuff in mail headers, as well as a lot of cruft.
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