Does pidgin need an Internet connection per se or can it run on internal Corporate LAN?

[Luke Schierer]

On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 12:17:23PM -0700, Bill Fassler wrote:
> Thanks Luke - I appreciate everyone's responses and patience.  I have gotten my newly built pidgin to run on the Slackware box buy running the ldconfig command.  Don't know why I didn't think of that, guess I didn't think it should have been necessary.
> 
> Can I configure one of my boxes (preferably the Ubuntu box) as the IM server and talk to the slackware box as the client.  Is it possible to have an internal server and client running on the same workstation? Or will I need 3 machines total?
> 
> If the path of least resistance is to create an internal server then that is the way I will go.
> 
> Bill

The server can certainly be on the same machine as one of the clients.
I see at least two jabber servers packaged for debian, so it is likely
that at least one of them is available as an ubuntu package.

luke


> 
> Luke Schierer <lschiere at pidgin.im> wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 10:35:47AM -0700, Bill Fassler wrote:
> > I just tried again using every suggestion you have and they seem to have servers identified or want them identified (except Gadu-Gadu which you says needs one).
> > 
> > Ok, so I guess after reading your response more closely you say "internal server". Well I assume you mean Internal IM server and I don't have one.  Where can I get one?  And why do I need one?  Shouldn't a simple point-to-point connection (perhaps using SIP) be possible??
> > 
> > Maybe I thought Pidgin was more versatile than it actually is.
> > 
> > Bill
> 
> GG does not list a server because there *is* only one.  The only
> protocol that I'm aware of that would not require a server os bonjour.
> 
> I do not know if SIP can operate in a serverless manner.
> 
> While it is possible in a theoretical sense to do serverless IM, bonjour
> does so, the protocol has to support it.  We merely implement the
> protocols, we do not define them.  
> 
> You can get links to some common jabber servers from jabber.org.  A
> google search will no doubt provide you with the names of common open
> source irc servers.  Each acts differently, and one or the other might
> suit your needs better.
> 
> Sametime and groupwise are naturally commercial products.
> 
> luke
> 
> 
> > 
> > Luke Schierer  wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 08:45:04AM -0700, Bill Fassler wrote:
> > > On my newer 64-bit Ubuntu box I have GAIM 2.0.0.beta6. I assume I can not use Yahoo, AIM, MSN etc because they are looking for IM servers on the Internet when I am on an isolated LAN.  I have never used this application so bear with me here.  I chose Gadu-Gadu and although it initially claimed that it could not acquire a token or something, I managed through trial and error to create and enter a chat room. Now I am trying to use an older 32-bit machine running Slackware to join in the chat session.  It can not find the chat room (which is the only one on the entire LAN)  and I fail to see how I can tell it specifically what IP and/or port to go to. It even came back once saying "server not found" and I had no idea what server it was trying to locate. Keep in mind this is an older (perhaps much older version of GAIM)
> > > 
> > 
> > I am surprised gadu gadu would even appear to connect.  You should be
> > connecting to a Jabber (xmpp), irc, sametime, groupwise or bonjour
> > network.  The others all require specific servers.
> > 
> > luke
> > 
> > 
> > > Anyway, my objective is to get a box to box chat going on and then try to push it through an encrypted tunnel using OpenVPN.
> > > 
> > > If you have any documentation that can help please point me to it, because I'm sure GAIM/Pidgin is painless and idiot-proof when you are on the web, but I can't seem to get it up and running on my LAN.
> > > 
> > > Oh I am also in the process of trying to create an embedded version of Finch which is why I am in the devel forum at all, but maybe this quiestion should be on some newb user forum, sorry.
> > > 
> > > Now on an older 32-bit Slackware box
> > > 
> > > Daniel Atallah  wrote: On 7/26/07, Bill Fassler  wrote:
> > > > I am trying a test to see if pidgin will work in an isolated internal
> > > > corporate LAN.  I would have assumed so but after launching the application
> > > > it seems like it is trying to "connect" to something that isn't there.....
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > 
> > > There is no reason that Pidgin needs an internet connection for use
> > > with an internal server.
> > > 
> > > What exactly are you seeing that makes it "seems like it is trying to
> > > 'connect' to something that isn't there"?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -D
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