[Pidgin] #5559: No text input resizing

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#5559: No text input resizing
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  Reporter:  hanscastorp   |       Owner:  lschiere
      Type:  defect        |      Status:  closed  
  Priority:  minor         |   Milestone:          
 Component:  unclassified  |     Version:  2.4.1   
Resolution:  duplicate     |    Keywords:          
   Pending:  0             |  
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Comment (by deryni):

 No one has dismissed any criticism, least of all me, what I have dismissed
 is backless assertions of pure preference (and the vitriolic insults that
 go with them). You say that "Very few people will take the time to set up
 a username for a site like this and post a perceived bug, complaint, or
 criticism." which is true, however it is *doubly* true for people who
 *like* the changes, so you cannot simultaneously make the claim that the
 people who choose to sign up to complain are somehow more representative
 of anything than the people who choose not to sign up to give thanks (all
 of which I've said a number of times already). Furthermore, as stated
 above *no one* has been ignored. We (collectively) have tried to answer
 everyone who has questions on this topic, we didn't prevent plugins from
 bringing it back, and we point people who really can't live without it at
 the plugin that exists for it. So I really wish people would stop equating
 a refusal to implement an option we think is poor with ignoring anything,
 because they aren't even remotely the same thing. (Also for the record, I
 doubt there are a thousand different complaining users. I would be
 astonished if there was half of that to be honest.)

 Once again, not agreeing to do something is not the same as not taking it
 into consideration. We have taken the plugin into consideration, the
 problem with maintaining the plugin ourselves (especially when it is a
 feature none of us uses) is that things have a tendency to break/get
 broken and then it is our problem when they do so, as opposed to being the
 author's problem (an author who presumably does in fact use the
 functionality and can therefore notice when it breaks and fix it). So the
 decision to date to not include the plugin is largely a pragmatic one, the
 costs involved with assuming maintenance on a plugin we don't use is
 greater than we think worth it. Plain and simple. (Not to mention the fact
 that the manual resize plugin is now being maintained inside the
 [http://plugins.guifications.org/trac Purple Plugin Pack] though I don't
 believe it will have made it into a release yet (or if they plan on
 including it in their releases).

 Really, to sum up here, what has made this issue so unfortunate is that
 the majority of the people who want the manual resizing back (including
 yourself to a minor degree) seem incapable of understanding the difference
 between listening, considering, and dismissing presented ideas (while
 being open to new ones) and a total ignoring of ideas and people. When
 that problem is further complicated by the fact that a number of people
 don't want to even bother trying to think or listen things get rapidly out
 of hand. The fact that the funpidgin authors decided it was in their best
 interest to fork pidgin rather than implement the plugin I will never
 understand, nor do I think I will ever understand why people would choose
 to use funpidgin (which at this point I believe just uses the plugin)
 instead of just using pidgin and the plugin. Even more to the point I fail
 to understand why the people who really want pidgin to be a certain way
 seem to generally simultaneously be unable to understand that not everyone
 wants things that way and that they would be best served in getting pidgin
 to do what they want by becoming active thoughtful members of the pidgin
 community.

 Oh and yes, to be completely honest, part of the reason I personally don't
 want the manual resizing plugin in pidgin itself is because I am convinced
 that many/most of the people who think they want it will be perfectly
 happy with the auto-resizing once they give it enough time and as such
 shipping the plugin by default will make it that much less likely that
 they will try it. (I have no problems cluttering the default plugin list
 as such but I do think we could stand to have a few less than we do now,
 as well as an in-general better plugin community.)

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