[Pidgin] #4986: automatic chat input field resizing should be optional, regression from 2.3

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Mon Mar 31 16:35:01 EDT 2008


#4986: automatic chat input field resizing should be optional, regression from 2.3
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  Reporter:  swbrown       |       Owner:                   
      Type:  enhancement   |      Status:  reopened         
  Priority:  minor         |   Milestone:                   
 Component:  pidgin (gtk)  |     Version:  2.4.0            
Resolution:                |    Keywords:  chat input resize
   Pending:  0             |  
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Comment (by TacBoy):

 Replying to [comment:169 deryni]:

 I wasn't going to respond on this ticket any more but if you were serious
 with trying to relate number of downloads with number of comments I'd like
 to point out that your assumption is that every user will make a post if
 dissatisfied, which is just silly. One could argue that there are more
 dissatisfied posts than there are satisfied, but that would be silly too.
 (for a number of reasons) So, to be serious; there is no way to determine
 if a majority or even a large portion of the base that installs and uses
 Pidgin is unhappy or happy with this specific feature. My guess is that
 most don't care and don't even notice one way or the other.

 However, that said, one thing that IS clear is that there are a number of
 people that did notice and dissatisfied to the point of not just
 commenting on it but creating user accounts, creating addons, creating
 forks, and trying other IM clients. This is no small amount of effort and
 is something that any reasonable person should pay attention to. The
 responses from the devs back to the community, no matter how intentioned,
 have not seemed like those of someone that is paying attention. In fact,
 replies with plain nonsense quoting of numbers as if they mean anything is
 the exact sort of things that give this impression. It is beyond
 dismissive.

 I commend you (and other devs) for trying to come up with a "compromise".
 However, I think the sticky point that quite a number of people (including
 myself) don't get is why a "compromise" is required in the first place. We
 simply do not understand how having a default value that can be manually
 overridden is a "bad thing" that needs to be changed.

 I agree that the devs have not said options or flexibility are bad. That's
 certainly not why the feature was altered/removed. As near as I can tell
 it was done because correcting/maintaining the feature was not deemed with
 the effort. As well as hints that the devs like the current behavior
 better for their own personal use.

 "Also for realizing that despite the negative effects a given change might
 have had on your usage for the moment that the changes are not intended as
 attacks and are intended to make things better for everyone in the long
 run."

 And therein lies the crux of all of it if you ask me. (which you did not)
 A contingent of people don't see how removing the ability to set the size
 as you wish was "making things better" for anyone.

 However, I was unware of funpidgin (as I'm sure most of the Pidgin users
 are unaware. Just as most of them are probably unware of this ticket.) and
 now that I do know I will go add my number to those downloads. Don't
 mistake ignorance of options for acceptance.

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